Published on Tuesday, March 1, 2011

Ban kids from flying, customers tell ancillary website


Ever got on a flight only to find you’ve been seated next to a tearful toddler and family?
That sinking feeling most of us get when spotting a miniature travelling companion in our row has just been quantified by a new report that reveals a massive 83% of passengers would like to see adult-only areas on flights.
Airport hotel and parking website polled just less than 5000 of its customers to find out what air passengers really want and a flight sans enfants came out tops.
What’s more, just under a third went further and said they would like to ban children on flights completely. A slightly more tolerant 51% said there should be cabins set aside for adults only.
A little more predictably, more than 75% of those polled said they needed more leg room and felt that feeling uncomfortable was the worst aspect of flying.
A rather delicate 9% of respondents said what they really couldn’t stand was having to sit next to a smelly person. Poor loves.
Head of product innovation and merchandising at Anthony Clarke-Cowell said: “I’m surprised so many travellers have expressed such a strong desire for adult-only flights.
“Flights abroad always present a challenge for families and this is reflected in the results. There is clearly a need for more facilities to keep children happily engaged in quieter pastimes both during and before a flight.”
by Dinah Hatch


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  • Take our money but not our children?

    Interesting to see how this debate has developed since I first commented. Didn't realise there was such a stream of vitriol against small defenceless people. Yes they can be loud, and yes they can be messy, and yes some parents don't take enough responsibility or bring enough distracting entertainments, but as some other posters here point out, adults can also behave very badly on flights - and elsewhere for that matter. Broader point is, the family travel market is HUGE - I'd like to see companies such as themselves do without that valuable income. Surely the solution to this is to try to provide 'quiet zones' in planes (can't imagine sitting next to the toilet is that much fun either) for which a little more is charged, while parents of young children are offered more than just clip on baby cots and some cartoon channels?

    By Liane Katz, Thursday, March 3, 2011

  • A Mcdonalds in the sky?

    Be careful! Adult only sections in aircraft could be on the way now as the low cost carriers look for more extras to charge for! Kiddies sections complete with hostess nannies? Is this the way forward for long haul flights? Could this be the start of a MacDonald"s in the sky as airlines sell off concession rights or is it a cr-¨che too far??? The problem is the all the stress involved with flying these days. Once upon a time the trip to the airport was part of the holiday. Now it is a required evil to get to your holiday destination. As stress levels rise so does intolerance.

    By Paul Davis, Thursday, March 3, 2011

  • Wow - this has really hit a nerve

    hasn't it. Most of the comments appear to back capital punishment for the parents of these lovely little dears whilst caging them all up in one place is another option, we've also had less than fragrant people, extremists,hypochondriacs,and freeloaders thrown into the mix - it just goes to show that very few people have much regard for the feelings of others these days especially when they are travelling - it's me first and to hell with everyone else!! Tolerance only goes so far when you are in a stressful situation

    By Peter Cansick, Thursday, March 3, 2011

  • Slap 'em!

    Back in the early 80's when you could admonish ankle grabbers without the risk of jail for child abuse, I quietly "tweaked" a kid in front of me who had been annoying me for 3 hours without the parents doing anything, it was constantly rocking the back of its seat back and forth which made my eating breakfast impossible, but still nothing was said. After I "tweaked" the kid from hell it immediately screamed complaints to the parents, who slapped it...sorry him for telling fibs! The injustice of it all kept the child quiet for the rest of the flight. I have a bigger problem with people who should pay for two seats sitting next to me, especially when their vast bulk consumes all the oxygen in the immediate vicinity.

    By Paul Davis, Thursday, March 3, 2011

  • ban kids from flying

    Some commentators are missing the issue...ear plugs so how do you listen to a movie? Parenting? if you are going to use even a long haul to correct what was wrong sorry that flight would be are not the only partys who can be very annoying.... I have witnessed some behaviour of adults which was deplorable. Child-parent sections would work it really is an issue for those who do long-hauls!

    By Gerard Wirth, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • Children with parents area.

    On a flight from LON to HKG and sitting in front of a child kicking my seat back, screaming and the parent "dumping" a full diaper under the seat I support a seperate area for adults travelling with children. Some parents don't control themselves let alone their children.

    By Robert Hobden, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • I blame the parents!

    I've just landed - about 4 hours ago - on a long-haul flight from Hong Kong to LHR. I'm tired and groggy having been woken up at regular intervals by a two year old continually kicking the back of my seat - while sitting on his father's lap! This was the same dad that let this infant run up and down the aisle while he sat in his seat and ignored the child. So at the moment I'm feeling all in favour of putting them all together at the back and letting them annoy one another! However, it's all down to parenting - When my two were young - and I took them abroad on long haul flights from the time they were tiny - I was very aware of how they might be affecting other people's journeys - so they were always entertained and kept from making noise. I remember one time, at the end of a very long flight to Chicago that had been diverted to Detroit because of fog and had to sit on the tarmac for 6 hours before we could get back to Chicago - the woman in front of me said (as we eventually left the plane after 15 hours) that she had to compliment me because she hadn't even been aware that we'd had children with us because they'd been so quiet. They were only 5 and 2 at the time, so it can be done - it just takes some decent parenting. But adult-only cabins... hmmm yes, after last night's episode I'd be in favour!

    By Shuna Marr, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • Earplugs for all

    The simple solution is for the airline to issue cheap, disposable earplugs for every adult and child on the flight. Infants most likely suffer from the pressure caused in their ear canals and this may be eliminated by plugging their ears. Adults, of course would hear less commotion with their plugs. As far as just plain unruly children, this is bad parenting and those parents whose children cause discomfort to others should be banned from future flights.

    By Simon Garrison, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • What about extremists-only flights ?

    Yeah, I mean it ! What about flights banned for people who want to ban kids on flights ??!!! People tend to forget what apartheid was about... I'm really shocked to see that no comments (apart from 'Liane Katz's comment) make the point of how segregationist this idea of banning kids on flights is... Has humanism completely disappeared totally from the face of the Earth ? Love you all... and your kids too !

    By Olivier Collineau, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • adult and kids only section with divider

    Parents should take responsiblity for their own children's behavior. As most of us have limited funds to pay for the ever rising airfares, it's ridiculous to have to put up with other people's badly behaving children. Adults have the right to travel in peace especially when they have to spend their hard earned monies on airfare. Having a "kids only" section with a divider between adult and kids section is a great idea! I am all for it!!

    By Sarah Robillard, Wednesday, March 2, 2011

  • Ban Kids and Hypochondriacs

    I totally agree; give me the option to take a child free flight and I"ll gladly pay for the privilege. But what about the upgrade swindlers? I recently came back on a long haul flight and remembering the screaming chorus on the way out I decided to spoil myself in business class. I"d hardly settled into my seat when the buzzards started circling, upstairs on a Virgin Atlantic flight they came acreeping; scanning the aisles for free seats, the poor cabin crew were excellent in their deflecting the tall stories told in an effort for a "free upgrade". "May I sit here" said one "This is my sister (pointing to a woman behind us) and we"ve not seen each other for 4 years". "certainly" said the crew "just pop downstairs and pay your upgrade fee as all these other passengers have done and we"ll find a seat for you". That told her, I thought, until 5 minutes after take off when low and behold, there she was suffering from "swollen ankles and head pains"!!!! I had to give up my window seat and suffered 10 hours of the insufferable woman snoring on my shoulder. "what can we do?" said the crew, "what if she really was ill and we ignored her?" Fair point I guess, I"m no monster. But next time I go to part with my hard earned cash for a comfortable trip home, I may just find myself coming down with something that demands a roomy seat and an after dinner brandy!

    By Susan Whelan, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Ban kids on flights

    Possibly allocating the seats to the back of the plane would work ? Such a ban would kill business for the airlines and vacation destinations.

    By Gerard Wirth, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Badly behaved children of disinterested parents

    I used to think I was intolerant, not wanting to sit next to children on planes, but then a few years ago I flew Monarch premium economy to Goa. 2-4-2 config, and we were in the middle with two kids next to us. The parents had the window and aisle on the row in front. When even parents don't want to sit near to their own badly behaved little brats, why should the rest of have to?

    By Nick Chaple, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Parents would prefer kids only areas

    Having travelled both as a single person and a parent with young children, I can state with certainty that parents with children would very much prefer to be able to separate themselves from the rest of the travelling passengers. Why the airlines have not introduced "child-only" zones is a mystery. Plane journeys with kids are difficult enough without having to deal with the additional anxiety of keeping sticky fingers off the business-man in the next seat.

    By Susan Daltas, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Yes, please

    Completely agree!!!!!! Someone make it happen please.

    By Steve Langley, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Its a social problem not an age one

    Kids, and for that matter parents, just aren't 'trained' anymore in how to behave. One unruly child can upset virtually a whole plane but then so can one drinking slob who behaves like he/she is still propped up against the nearest costa not a lotta bar. This sort of thing shouldn't be seen as a war on children but a war on anti social behaviour. There should be a luggage room on every flight that unruly 'adults' and children can be locked. Preferably on the outside of the cabin!!

    By Andy Parr, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Adults Only Cabins

    Natalie Hibbert made excellent sense in her observation. I've travelled long haul with children in the past and felt huge sympathy for the people near us - most parents have. I also recently travelled from Manchester to Dubai (in business class) and had the mother crouched in the aisle next to me, entertaining her child. She did have the coutesy to apologise - at the end of the flight! As a travel agent I look at the seating plans, searching for seats for my customers where I can at least guarantee that they are not sitting next to an infant (under 2) - but these are dotted all over each cabin!! I don't think that someone should have to pay a premium rate to enjoy peace on their flight and, of course, parents have the right to travel with their children. Surely it should be possible to designate cabins for adults only, leaving families grouped together in cabins that could have specially trained cabin crew and children's entertainment facilities?

    By Margaret Ekerete, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • They shouldn't be allowed to fly

    I mean, what is the point of taking kids abroad anyway? Snotty little buggers aren't able to appreciate new cultures. Ban them from ALL flights!

    By Stuart Bowden, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Adult Only

    This is such a popular topic at the moment and a huge debate on whether this should be an option for customers. I recently wrote a blog about this subject myself Its definitely something to be considered!

    By emma davis, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Yeah, right...!?

    Let's see the airlines trying to exclude families/kids from their holiday/FIT travel segment and the huge revenues that are generated from this customer base. For those wanting peace and quiet, that's why you can pay extra for Premium or Business class. For sure parents need to do better to control their kids. But banning them in the air? What next, trains, public transport...? Yeah, right...get a life please!

    By Meraj Huda, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Totally Agree on Adult Only Areas

    I am in my late 20's, do not have children and use my disposable income for travelling. Back in December I flew back from Australia with Emirates and on the next row of seats was a family with a baby and a toddler. For most of the 14 hours to Dubai and then a further 7 hours to Manchester these children did not stop crying, I would have loved there to have been an area where their parents could have taken their unsettled children, especially on long haul flights that involve overnight where other passengers are trying to relax. What I thought was even worse was that this family had been seated directly behind the Business Class cabin, sectioned off only by a curtain and bulk head. I would not expect to pay that kind of money to hear a screaming child all flight.

    By Natalie Hibbert, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Silent class instead of adults only?

    How about a silent class tickets that would be slightly more expensive? You would be surrounded by people who also prefer quietness.

    By Petri Pusa, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Outrageous!

    As someone who just flew 11 hrs daytime with a perfectly behaved toddler, only to be kicked in the back of my seat constantly on the night flight home by a fully grown selfish adult, I find this totally outrageous. Children have rights too... Virgin Atlantic should be applauded for their excellent clip in child seats which aid peaceful sleep for all, and BA for their bouncer-style alternatives to bassinets. Providing a few crayons and a sticker book wouldn't go amiss...

    By Liane Katz, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Considerate parents

    The problem with kids on a flight are the parents. Many parents prefer to leave their kids to their own devices thinking that sitting next to them is sufficient to keep them from getting annoying to other passengers. They don"t engage with their kids, thinking the screen back TV"s are sufficient to keep their children occupied. A child kicking the back of your seat is the most annoying thing on board a flight and I often think that the parent needs to be sitting where I am to see just how annoying their child is. I suspect fewer travellers would think children an annoyance on a flight if their parents were more considerate!

    By robert sarran, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • adults only - then pay extra for it ?

    Yeh great idea, but bet they won't want to pay quite a bit extra for it !!!

    By Craig Mathews, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Disowning Parents

    Many parents seem to disown their children, especially on long flights. The rest of us are left there being forced to listen to the screaming. An adults only area I think is a great idea.

    By Adrian Loveridge, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • Adult only

    Now, I'm not talking about any airline in particular, (Ryanair) but I'm sure they have been actively searching for ways to become even more creative with additional charges to their 'low cost' flights. Could this be it??

    By Keith Standen, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

  • How about some of these 'parents' taking

    How about some of these parents taking responsibility for their unruly brats?? How many times have you sat in the departure lounge dreading that fact that you might have to sit near the kids from hell that are just running riot while the parents spend their time texting their friends, shouting at the little dears or just igonoring them in the hope that 'someone' will do something with them? Is it not possible for these parents to equip themselves with games or books to keep the little uns' amused or is that a step too far? Of course here's another revenue stream opportunity for Mr. O'Leary to jump on -  a premium for adults only flights. Now that's worth 20 quid of anyone's money!!

    By Peter Cansick, Tuesday, March 1, 2011

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